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It was discovered that 3-4 people did a lot of ballot box stuffing in an attempt to give undue weighting to some of the responses; details
can be found on this post. On July 19th, I was able to largely remove the effects of this. A full discusion of my reasons and methods are detailed here.
As a result, I've had to implement a couple rules for the balloting as this goes forward. For the questions below, each IP is allowed only a single vote per every several days. This does make it a little clumsy for housholds or shared computer systems where multiple people may want to weigh in, but as is often the case, the selfishness and arrogance of a few results in limitations on the rest of us.
If you'd like opportunity to give more detailed and thoughful commentary, please visit the forum. If all you're interested in is the summary of the survey questions, click here.
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Not Important
- 13/06/2008 12:36
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Is this site ran by communists?
Our opinions don't matter on this site do they? Opinions are deleted.
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Long Laker
laughincoyote@aol.com
- 11/06/2008 21:05
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| Plain and Simple, there is no justification! They raped the land - I own a house on Kickerville Lane,. The road that tthe logging trucks ride up and down for over a year or more. They are a nuisance in every direction! They are destroying our road, our enviroment and the Town of Long Lake closes their eyes until someone gets run over by a logging truck or the road becomes hazdours and the tex payers have to forfeitt the bill. The Boy Scouts sold themselves SHAME ON YOU FOR RAPING THE LAND!
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scoutdude
- 10/06/2008 15:47
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| You said it Bill.
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jstratton
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- 10/06/2008 07:58
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| Well said Bill !
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jstratton
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- 10/06/2008 07:58
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| Well said Bill !
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Ivory
ivory@blue-vistas.com
- 11/06/2008 22:13
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To the prior poster (Anon) - Actually, I wouldn't give up hope just yet. As a result of these web pages, we know that at least the Council is reacting by engaging in more newsletters and such. The results of the survey also clearly show that the majority of people were unaware of what the was about to happen, and were largely disappointed and bothered by the results. I hold hope that these facts are sobering to not only this Council, but perhaps to others that might considering doing something similar. Despite whatever spin can be put on it, this logging and the public acceptance of it did not go according to plan.
I think that some are hoping/expecting that our interest in what happened will fade away, and that things can get back to normal soon.
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Anon.
- 05/06/2008 22:29
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| Think anyone will REALLY pay attention to the survey results? Will it REALLY matter? When I first became in involved, I would have believed "Yes". But now I think I was just being ignorant. Shame on me for trusting.
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Matthew Ivory
bartuc@gmail.com
- 20/05/2008 20:09
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I did not know about this at all! Took me by complete surprise...
Personally, I am glad that this website is here to let people know about what happened up at Cedarlands before they go to Cedarlands... only to find out that it is not what it use to be.
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BigGreenTaxi
- 19/05/2008 20:23
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| It will only look like this for 2-3 years and you will never know it happened. Would you rather us plastic toilet paper?
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Jim Eklund
jeklund@a-znet.com
- 19/05/2008 18:56
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Back in 2005 I had a conversation with the person that would have a great deal of input on the future of the camp. He indicated, at that time, that the Seneca site was the best one in the camp. Wide open, grass covered and no trees to fall on anyone. The photos provided do not shock me in the least. They are, in fact, exactly what I expected. As to whether our Troop of Scouts will return after this year, that is entirely up to them. It is their Troop, and thus, their decision.
I grew up in the forests that surround Raquette Lake New York and often took compass hikes into places such as Lone Pond, an area only available in this way. I have had the joy of walking a forest untouched by man or his machines. A forest last touched only by the hand of God. The Cederlands we all knew, in all years we knew it, did not resemble the forests I have walked. The Cederlands that remains today, even if left untouched and uninhabited for the next threehundred years, will only begin to resemble the forest God intended to have reside there.
We are Scouts. The forest and the great outdoors have been, and will allways be, our best classroom. We will adapt to what man has left us to work with. That is part of the lesson we teach in Scouting as well.
I do, however, think that it is time to take small groups of Scouts on a compass hike...or two, and show them what it is like to hike through, and rest your eyes under God's great canopy, opening them a short time later looking straight up into it's majestic glory. For that experience, there is no substitute.
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If you have suggestions for other poll questions,
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