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It was discovered that 3-4 people did a lot of ballot box stuffing in an attempt to give undue weighting to some of the responses; details
can be found on this post. On July 19th, I was able to largely remove the effects of this. A full discusion of my reasons and methods are detailed here.
As a result, I've had to implement a couple rules for the balloting as this goes forward. For the questions below, each IP is allowed only a single vote per every several days. This does make it a little clumsy for housholds or shared computer systems where multiple people may want to weigh in, but as is often the case, the selfishness and arrogance of a few results in limitations on the rest of us.
If you'd like opportunity to give more detailed and thoughful commentary, please visit the forum. If all you're interested in is the summary of the survey questions, click here.
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scoutdude
- 10/06/2008 15:47
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| You said it Bill.
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jstratton
jjrmstrat@msn.com
- 10/06/2008 07:58
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| Well said Bill !
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jstratton
jjrmstrat@msn.com
- 10/06/2008 07:58
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| Well said Bill !
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Program Director
engelb90@potsdam.edu
- 09/06/2008 22:55
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Scouts attending Cedarlands this summer are going to have an awesome week at camp. I am very excited that it is only a few weeks away! We have one of the best staffs assembled east of the Rocky Mountains. We have 4 NY State certified teachers (Myself included) on staff, Our Scoutcraft director will be attending SUNY ESF's Wilderness Education graduate program this upcoming fall. We have a pathfinder director that is second to none who loves working with the scouts. Our waterfront staff is AWESOME! Our Jr. staff is excited and cannot wait to get to camp. If you and the rest of your troop go into camp with a positive attitude I know with out a doubt that you will have one of the best weeks of camp you will ever have!
I cannot wait to see you there!
-Bill Engelbrecht
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- 08/06/2008 21:28
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| Wow I was quite impressed by the pictures. Things are looking really good! It was quite humorous to read sarcastic comments made about something that didn't look so bad. Great job volunteering while you were up trespassing!
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Matthew Ivory
bartuc@gmail.com
- 20/05/2008 20:09
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I did not know about this at all! Took me by complete surprise...
Personally, I am glad that this website is here to let people know about what happened up at Cedarlands before they go to Cedarlands... only to find out that it is not what it use to be.
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BigGreenTaxi
- 19/05/2008 20:23
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| It will only look like this for 2-3 years and you will never know it happened. Would you rather us plastic toilet paper?
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Jim Eklund
jeklund@a-znet.com
- 19/05/2008 18:56
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Back in 2005 I had a conversation with the person that would have a great deal of input on the future of the camp. He indicated, at that time, that the Seneca site was the best one in the camp. Wide open, grass covered and no trees to fall on anyone. The photos provided do not shock me in the least. They are, in fact, exactly what I expected. As to whether our Troop of Scouts will return after this year, that is entirely up to them. It is their Troop, and thus, their decision.
I grew up in the forests that surround Raquette Lake New York and often took compass hikes into places such as Lone Pond, an area only available in this way. I have had the joy of walking a forest untouched by man or his machines. A forest last touched only by the hand of God. The Cederlands we all knew, in all years we knew it, did not resemble the forests I have walked. The Cederlands that remains today, even if left untouched and uninhabited for the next threehundred years, will only begin to resemble the forest God intended to have reside there.
We are Scouts. The forest and the great outdoors have been, and will allways be, our best classroom. We will adapt to what man has left us to work with. That is part of the lesson we teach in Scouting as well.
I do, however, think that it is time to take small groups of Scouts on a compass hike...or two, and show them what it is like to hike through, and rest your eyes under God's great canopy, opening them a short time later looking straight up into it's majestic glory. For that experience, there is no substitute.
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Cindy Smith
ricardcin@yahoo.com
- 18/05/2008 09:48
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| Shame on council for doing this. Now our new boys will never know the beautiful place that once was Cedarlands
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If you have suggestions for other poll questions,
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